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Armenian worldwide population today, is estimated at a little more than 10 million. Although it is an impossible task to compile an accurate count of all Armenians in the Diaspora, we continuously try to update and maintain the information on this page as accurately as possible. Help us update the population table on this page by sending us any information you might have on Diaspora population in specific countries. Click here to contact us.

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ARMENIAN POPULATION IN THE WORLD

Albania 500
Argentina 130,000
Buenos Aires 65,000
Cordoba 7,000
Armenia 3,000,000
Austria 3,000
Australia** 50,000
Melbourne 10,000
Sydney 40,000
Bahamas ?
Belarus 25,000
Belgium** (09.2003) 10,000
Bolivia 4
Bosnia-Herzegovina ?
Brazil* 40,000
Bulgaria* 30,000
Plovdiv* 15,000
Canada* 40,615
British Columbia 2,130
Alberta 905
Manitoba 215
Ontario 18,245
Quebec 18,860
Nova Scotia 185
Newfoundland 10
Nunavut 10
North West Territories 20
West Arctic 25
Chile 400
China 16
Colombia 250
Costa Rica 20
Croatia ?
Cuba 100
Cyprus* 2,740
Czech Republic 10,000
Denmark 3,000
Dominican Republic 75
Ecuador ?
Egypt* 6,500
El Salvador ?
Estonia 2,000
Ethiopia 400
Finland 1,000
France* 450,000
Lyon 100,000
Marseille* 80,000
Paris 200,000
Georgia 248,000
Tbilisi 85,000
Germany* 42,000
Ghana 15
Greece* 20,000
Guatemala ?
Hungary 15,000
Honduras 900
Hong Kong 16
Hungary ?
India* 560
Indonesia 10
Iran 100,000
Tehran 80,000
Iraq 20,000
Ireland* 50
Israel 3,000
Italy* 2,500
Milan 800
Rome 400
Venice 200
Ivory Coast 20
Jamaica ?
Japan 10
Jordan* 51,533
Kazakhstan* 25,000
Kenya ?
Kuwait 5,000
Kyrgyz tan* 3,285
Latvia 5,000
Lithuania 2,500
Luxembourg* 10
Latvia ?
Lebanon* 234,000
Lithuania ?
Luxembourg ?
Mexico* 500
Moldova 7,000
Monaco 200
Morocco ?
Netherlands 3,000
New Zealand 600
Norway 1,000
Panama ?
Paraguay ?
Peru ?
Philippines 8
Poland* 92,000
Portugal ?
Puerto Rico 4
Quatar 150
Romania 3000
Russia* 2,250,000
Moscow* 1,000,000
St. Petersburg ?
Saudi Arabia ?
Senegal 15
Singapore 35
Slovakia ?
South Africa 200
South Korea 12
Spain 1,000
Sudan 1,000
Swaziland 8
Sweden* 5,000
Switzerland* 5,000
Syria* 150,000
Aleppo 50,000
Tahiti ?
Tajikistan* 6,000
Thailand* 1,000
Tunisia ?
Turkey*(note) 2,080,000
Turkmenistan* 32,000
UAE 3,000
99,000
United Kingdom 18,000
London* 12,000
United States* 1,400,000
Chicago 35,000
Colorado* 1,000
Detroit 60,000
Florida (state) 25,000
Boca-Raton, FL* 2,400
Miami , FL* 7500
Naples , FL* 1600
Orlando, FL* 1400
Tampa, FL* 3800
Fresno* (County) 50,000
Hawaii (State) ?
Kansas* 480
Los-Angeles* 1,000,000
Nevada
Las Vegas* 8,000
Massachussetts* 120,000
Boston* 60,000
Miami* 1,000
New-York 100,000
Philadelphia, PA* 10,000
Phoenix, AZ* 2,500
Raleigh, NC 500
Richmond, VA 1,200
San Francisco* 40,000
Sacramento ?
Seattle* 2,000
Washington DC* 10,000
Watertown, MA* 10,000
US Virgin Islands ?
Uruguay 19,000
Uzbekistan 70,000
Venezuela 2,500
Vietnam 8
Yemen ?
Yugoslavia 10,000
Zaire ?
Zambia 10
Zimbabwe* 28

Boston*

Comments 

 
+19 # 2011-04-26 01:30
Hi there. I am Armenian, I live in Australia. I have noticed that there is no information about Armenians from South Australia. In Adelaide we have 100-300. Could you please add that info. We have Armenian Cultural Association of South Australia here (ACASA Inc, currently working on a new web site).Thanks

Regards,
Elena
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+5 # 2011-10-05 23:18
HII GUYS
I AM IN HONG KNG I LIKE TO BE TOUCHED WITH THAT 16 ARMENINANS WHICH IS MENTIONED ON THE LIST
ATIK
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+1 # Gustavo Tarikian 2012-08-20 19:57
hi .. i am going to Hong Kong in october... me my wife and my brother... my grand father Azad was born in Armenia.... Do you live in Hong Kong ? Lets keep in touch !
Mercy

Gustavo Tarikian
Sao Paulo - Brazil
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+9 # 2011-05-11 09:53
wowwww , am half armenian, and my country lebanon contains a largeee number of armenians! 234,000 according to ur numbers . note that lebanon's population counts 4 millions only..
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+11 # 2011-08-19 01:49
Number of Armenians living in Turkey doesn't seem right. As far as I know there are about 60.000 Armenians (minority) and 10,000-15,000 Armenian immigrant.
Simply couldn't understand the 2 million???
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-13 # 2011-09-24 08:52
Dear friend.
In Turkey, there may be more than the number mentioned above armenians according ROOTS. Many of turks grandparents are armenians, marired to turks by force and/or by changing religeon.Wish the Armenian genocide never happened .We as armenians love the land Turkey.
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-37 # berkay 2011-12-23 00:47
Dear Friend,
Beleive, it has never happened. Because in that time, there was only 1,2 millions Armenian in Ottoman Empire. But Armenian governent claims that 1,5 millions people died there. Yes, there were some deads but from both nations (Turk and Armenian).
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+35 # vartan dadourian 2012-03-08 21:21
Dear ? Berkay.First of all you have no right to beleive or make us beleive.Socond,it wasnt your parents or grandparents who were robbed uprooted and massacred on the way to the syrian deserts.Men were taken to serve in the army or taken by gendarmes to vallies or forests to be killed-without being seen again.I would like you to find my 3 Great uncles burial sites-in GURUN-SIVAS.Women and children were left in the deserts of Syria to be abducted by Arabs Cherkez and nomads of the desert.They were enslaved and raised as moslem.Of those in the desert 25,000 were rescued by the British -French and some by American and Danish Dutch organizations.Read the testimony of ataturk during the trials of enver nazim bey taliat gemal azmi.No one in this world can teach an Armenian what a turk is and what they have done to us.We were turkeys architechts bankers writers artisans and craftsmen.We made and supplied the turks with the gunpowder withwhich they won their wars.Go read real history and forget about turkish sources -it will make you a real turk.Your grandmother might be Armenian-never forget that.
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-44 # Berkay 2012-03-09 04:40
Dear Vartan,
You are really funny. First of all, I have all rights to beleive or not. If your family died during migration, Armenian terrorists had killed Turkish soldiers, families, women and children slayed and been raped. There is ethics to kill people too. Your family hadn't killed by Armenian terrorists like that. So you can't know this fact too.
Do you know the reason of mutual massacre? Turkish government wants realise a commission with Armenian and Turkish historians to discuss it with evidences. But Armenia hasn't accepted it. We are ready to accept the decision of this commission.
The real reason is invaders forces that you mentioned about them as saver.
You are right Armenians were the loyal citizens of Ottoman Empire. Why it is called as loyal because lots of artists, architects, bankers were Armenian. This is why in Turkey, there still Armenians. We have never had problem with Armenians. When an insurgency started because France in South East Anatolia, an invasion started there. And the final solution was forced migration.
We are really sorry about your lost. Humans must live with peace but sometimes politics prevent it. First of all, this hate must be ended for both nations. Because history was lived and finished. We have lost the future also because of this hate. I finished it by a saying of Atatürk: "Peace at Home, Peace in the World."
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+13 # Andranik 2012-11-21 00:24
First of all, the Turkish government's decision of discussing the Armenian Genocide is absurd and could go back in their pockets. The Armenian Genocide is not something that should be discussed or questioned. It happened and it needs Turkey to be responsible for the acts of its ancestor. Therefore, Armenia has no time to spare on Turkish proposals. Second, if i was a 'turk', I wouldn't call Armenians terrorists. And finally, you will be sorry about your commiited crime as turks when you will one day have no choice but to recognize the Armenian Genocide yourself and pay back. Your will loose when you apologize and bow in front of the Memorial in Yerevan. Peace will come after pain has been healed. Ataturk kills and talks about peace? funny. By the way, Ataturk was a crypto jew if you were not aware and so were others that should be left for you to find out if you don't already know.
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-16 # Berkay 2012-11-26 02:02
What a dream :) Today is bad for me but thanks to you i am smiling Andranik. Thank you. Nothing can be accepted without discussion and proving.
And I don't call Armenians as a terrorist, never. I am not ignorant like you. I called asala as a terrosit group.
The apologise? Its your biggest dream my friend. We can apologise but after a worldwide prove.
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+11 # Can 2012-08-28 20:35
Forgive me Stupid Turco-MUslim barbar the Berkay and i hope one of you wont burn us alive again in Sivas because we are infidel alevis maybe crypto armenians huh???
There is one thing in the history that you middleasian turks dont wanna see is the Anatolia is not belong to you because your mother land is Muslim Turkmenistan or Mongolia!go back to your region!!!!!



Yes Vartan! what you explained are absolutely the truth.My grandma was an alevi person from Sivas, Sarkisla.And she were telling me that in those days the whole armenian people of the village had been slaughtered by muslims (espacially by governments terrorist clerks)!she was comparing to the blood pollution of armenians to the Kizilirmak River which means a river were akid to the armenian genocide bloody river in that region :(
And my great grandpa had no son so he had attempted to survive two armenian boys to adopt and the monster with his bloody sword threated my great grandpa saying if you dont give up rescuing armenian bastards we will slaughter your head.Finally he was defeated by pressure and let them to kill them in the mountain near their village.

Another story was a couple of years before genocide in that village alevi people and armenian people was telling each other that coming athmosphere is not a good one for minorities, we hope this sword will not slaughter you or us.And they chose the armenian victims!

And i have been heard that In Dersim region the non armenian folk was able to survive armenians and they had survived over 20.000 people and provided them a way to the soviet area from Dersim.Thats why they also massacred 90.000 kurdish alevi in Dersim.They were enslaved by muslim turks.And although they are zazaiki, nowadays muslim turks call kurdish alevis as crypto armenians because they did wrong by hiding and marrying to armenians fighting against ottomans and muslim terrorists!!!!! !

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-18 # Berkay 2012-08-30 04:52
Dear Can,
Are you drunk? Have found some that I says about Alevis? How can you know that I am not Alevi? Sivas is big wound of Turkey because lots of intellectuals of Turkey died there and some criminals have never been punished.
Real Turkish people was in middle asia but they weren't muslim. They were shamanist. And alevis are also muslim. So i don't understand what do you really want to say.
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+9 # Can 2012-08-30 16:03
Hey turco terror!are you getting shariatic ethical police?sorry for being drunk..another time i ll send u my urine samples to proof my islamic beliefs:)
Armenians were traitors and alevis are muslims thats why they dont attend to mosques and believe to quran:) you are a pure sample of comedy Mr Ignorance Turco:)
You cant even know who the real anatolians origin ?So do not ever teach me who i am and who real anatolians(non turks) are just Go back to Middle Asia!


I have found lots of common criminal acts about your fascistic comments and i predicted you ll say u r alevi or infidel because most of you say that we are exception, right?thats why i attempted to touched on my infidel being the Alevi :)

You should understand the facts in past!I dont say anything different than the victims of the Armenian Genocide!, of Dersim Alevi Mass MAssacre 38 and of the rest of your turco-islamic terror!

The whole world knows how epic ignorants u islamo-turcos are :)

Again Go back to Middle Asia or Broader Arabia the precious places where you barbarics are from!
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+8 # arsen 2012-09-06 10:46
Dear friend.. pls dont attention to this ignorance turco !!

My family converted to ALEVI , when they immigrated from Armenia to DERSIM in the Turkey. before name was MAMEKE then KALAN then DERSIM and now TUNCELI ..

Ottoman terror maked all of this happened !!

Alevis people arent muslim ! Alevis people was good to armenians in the 1915 years ... manny of armenians mixed this time with alevis in the DERSIM ! after Armenian Genocide, Ataturk and other son of the bitches maked DERSIM GENOCIDE cause Dersim people helped survive manny armenian and first American Armenians immigrated from DERSIM AREA !!! which one turco can say Alevis people muslim and turkish people arent !! heheheh :)) really comic !

GOD BLESS ARMENIA ( HAYASTAN )
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-17 # Berkay 2012-09-12 00:35
Everybody can come to Turkey and look at the archives in Istanbul. they are all open. They are the evidences.
There is no these kind of genocides. In addition, only weak civilisations suffer from genocide. Talk about Hocali. Talk about killed Turkish diplomates by asala. We have never talked about genocide or we have never remind these bad events. Because we are not a weak civilisation from middle asia to Anatolia!!!
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+5 # Mike Mardigian 2013-03-04 13:09
Berkay ...ASALA and other organizations are made because of armenians didnt got their ARMENIAN GENOCIDEs RIGHTS... so we will FIGHT against u till u recognize the GENOCIDE!
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+7 # Menua 2012-08-28 22:46
Berkay,

You should stop bullshitting, really. There is a good saying that goes along something like this, "Sometimes it is better to keep your mouth shut and look intelligent than to speak and embarrass yourself".

Unless you are being paid by your gov't to do this bullshit here in hopes that somehow magically you will convince the majority of Armenians and everybody else that there was no genocide, then you are just wasting your breath and making yourself look dumber every time.

So please, do yourself a favor and educate yourself by reading a number of internationally recognized books and legal documents on this subject matter from non-Turkish sources before you come here and make yourself into a laughing stock.

I will not be surprised if one day you find out that you have Armenian roots yourself. What will you do then? Start arguing the other side of the story? I for one will not recognize you as an Armenian because we take pride in our quality not quantity.
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-17 # Berkay 2012-08-30 04:33
Dear Sir,
As I have wrote many times only weak people can talk only with bad and degrading words. But believe me this is your weakness, not mine.
I am in quality sector so take it easy :) i am not paid by government. I have studied at the best schools of Turkey which there are lots of foreigners too. All members of my family are highly educated and university members. This is the source of my culture. At the same time I have Finance, Management, Phd. So I am an observer and science man. I can speak, read and talk 3 languages perfectly. Before talking about education and observation, you must consider these facts.
In addition, world is globalized, so I may have Armenian roots. No problem for me because I know that I have Kurdish roots from my mothers side. But I am citizen of Turkey and proud of to be Turkish. So that won't change anything for me.
Anyway, about genocide, I have read many sources which support or not support genocide. But if you know everything well, you can answer to my question: "Turkish Republic has offered to Armenia, to found an international commission with Turkish, Armenian and independant historians to find out the reality. And both sides must accept the result. But Armenia hasn't accepted it. WHY?"
Please if you are educated too, be careful with your words because you are ridiculed. It shows your level.
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+17 # Menua 2012-08-30 16:35
Only ignorant people can deny the fact of the Armenian Genocide.

"I have Finance, Management, Phd."-Berkay

Bullshit ! If you did your "logical" mind would have not asked the following illogical question: "But Armenia hasn't accepted it. WHY?" If you do actually have a PhD and still ask such a question, then your PhD has no value.

PhD doesn't mean that one is super intelligent, that only means that one is among the most educated ones. However, one can have a high school diploma and be intelligent, while somebody else with a college diploma might not be as intelligent.

Advance college degrees do not automatically equate to advance levels of intelligence. Additionally, intelligence is not made up of one component which automatically equates to having an advance degree. Intelligence is multidimensiona l and encompasses various domains of one's self-identity.

Now, considering that despite your "PhD" you couldn't figure out why the Armenian gov't refused to join a historical commission proposed by the Turkish gov't, I will help you to resolve your confusion about it.

If the Armenian gov't agreed to having this commission that would have indicated that Armenians are doubtful about their facts on the validity of the genocide, confused, and thus they need some sort of a commission to help them prove it or disprove it. Especially when the fact of the Armenian Genocide has been largely recognized by the world community already.

Therefore, by declining to accept such a commission, the Armenians have asserted that they are not confused and that they are not doubtful of the facts about the Armenian Genocide. They are 100% certain about it. As such, they have preserved their credibility on this matter.

Suggesting to Armenians to join such a commission is similar to suggesting to Jewish historians to join a commission that will prove or disprove the Holocaust. Especially at a time when it has been largely recognized by the world community already.

If you still don't get it, I don't blame you. You are a product of Turkish educational system that brainwashes generations of its citizens on the matter of the Armenian Genocide.

If you did get it, then more power to you. Next time you wouldn't ask illogical questions and thus people will treat you with more respect.
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+2 # Can 2012-08-30 17:32
"If you still don't get it, I don't blame you.You are a product of Turkish educational system that brainwashes generations of its citizens on the matter of the Armenian Genocide."
This is the crucial point!!!!!!!!!! !!
There is a saying in turanic-nazi ideology based universities" if a donkey is tied up in turco schools without hesitation it'll easily graduate"

I remember one sweet day one of my royal highness teacher had refused my project indefencibly, after i asked WHY? he suddenly replied me with a clever sentence"i know what it is to be young but you dont know what it is to be old" that connotes no matter if i die before i get older :) What i pointed out their ignorancy here is Turanic-Nazi individuals think the one is only intelligent with ages, islamic barbaric acts and diplomas:)

The Armenian Government should give ear to the turanic/kemalic historians false documents which declares armenians massacred Turkish People in 1915.But the one thing they left it out of account there were no statue as a Turkish People in the Ottoman Period the only statue for them was muslim thus armenians killed of various amount of muslim ethno society such as arabs, balkanians, persians, migralians, kurds, turks bla bla bla here is the main comedy begins.

To conclude my words There was no Armenian Genocide! there was na Armenian Evaporation out of Anatolia by itself which is a sceintistic discoveries of Turkish Government :)
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-15 # Berkay 2012-09-01 00:55
Menua, first of all my phd is not our subject. I mention about it because I always make researchs.
Anyway, beleive Armenian government hasn't accepted this commission because they haven't enough evidence. I emphatize it. If after this commission Armenian has right, Turkey must accept everything and you reach your aim. Everything will finish! But they are afraid because of other possibility; refusal of the genocide.
Think about jewish genocide. Jews hadn't killed any German. And German had killed jews systematically. But in our case, Armenian gangs had killed Turkish soldiers and public too. And soldiers had killed Armenian gangs and rebellions.
In addition, almost all countries who has accepted the genocide, accepted it because of Armenian lobby. Even some of them has no idea about it. For example, Argentina, Canada, Brazil...etc. They are not from our geography and history.
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+9 # Menua 2012-09-02 01:44
Jews have killed German soldiers as well. Go and read some history books. They had small resistance groups who just like Armenian resistance groups have fought against their murderers. I guess they didn't teach you that in Turkish schools and you weren't intelligent enough to find that out on your own.

As I have said before, sometimes it is better to remain silent and look intelligent, than speak and embarrass oneself.

Yeah, Armenians massacred Turks, that is why there are less than 70,000 Armenians left in Turkey and more than 60 million Turks. Your logic is truly flawless !

I shall stop wasting my breath on you, you are not worth it.
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-7 # Can 2012-08-30 17:38
Shut the [censored] up Armenian Semen the Assimilated Berkay!

I hope you wont take my abuse language offence because Armenian Semen or offspring is the most common swearing style in Turkey , right? :)
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+7 # Andranik 2012-11-21 00:03
Dear friend, I prefer you get more knowledge and not deny the loss and pain of the descendants of many innocent victims under the hands of barbaric turks. Armenians consisted of 2.5 million in their historic Western Armenian lands and at least 1.5 million were massacred. And I suggest you fix your words when writing about the Armenian Genocide, such as "1.5 million people died there"- they were killed! Also, whether turks died or not, it has nothing to do with the Armenian Genocide and it is not our problem. So next time, dear friend, I would rethink what I wrote or review my writing because you are being an enemy to truth.
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-14 # Berkay 2012-11-26 02:09
Your source is in correct. Numbers are talking. I found the number from an independent source (USA web site). At that time the total population of Ottoman Empire is 10 millions. The land is nearly 15 millions km square. There were Greeks, Arabs, Turks, Rums, Bulgars, Romanians, Africans...etc. And you told me that 25% of the Empire's population is Armenians???
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+1 # Nubar 2013-10-03 02:58
Yes, 25 % of Ottoman Empiere were Armnenian, besides, it can be a small number.
And you, Turks massacred, raped and kill cruelty Armenians, and you are saying, that it was a migration.
If you don't believe, you can come to our Genocide Museum, you will se all photos, archives, opinions of people from Europe who stated that with their own eyes they saw these events.
Don't be foolish, You will get your punishment. It did't happen on this moment only for one reason, Armenians don't upbring in such a way as Turks, Turks educate their children to become cruel, severe, and having a hate towards to Armenians. Armenians teach how to respect each other.
And then your attarturk decided to close this, and wanted to erase all the history and began to do something new. No one have a right to do that. Everyone knows that for you actions exist the liability. And you will get it with help of the world or not. And every Armenian will every second remind about that fact.
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+2 # Simon 2013-01-31 23:38
Getting in a debate with a genocide denier is a waste of time. Dear friends, let's agree to ignore this troll. Unfortunately Turks are raised in a climate of ignorance, jingoism and sadly hate. The world community knows the truth of the genocide.
Don't dignify this hateful man's posts. Just ignore him.
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+1 # Joshua Chapa 2013-11-02 17:50
Dear Berkay. Maybe if you saw past your racist Turkish eyes you can see the truth. There were actually 2,000,000 Armenians in the Ottoman Empire but many of them said they were Turk or Kurdish in order to avoid the tax system set up for Christians but as the Ottomans became less restrictive towards Christians the Armenians would claim that they were Armenian, this is how the Young Turks were able to identify and brutally murder 1,500,000 Armenians
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0 # Swag 2014-01-25 10:39
You fool. There were 2.1-2.5 million Armenians living in the Ottoman Empire. 1.5 million were killed and the rest deported and assimlated. AKA Genocide. In eastern Turkey (Western Armenia, homeland of the Armenians and contained most of the Armenians) almost every Armenian was killed. In the province of Van about 100% were ethnically cleansed. Turks were killed because of WORLD WAR 1....is that not obvious. Armenians were not the only ones that were killed. Assyrians and Pontic Greeks were next. Around 2.3 million non-Turks were killed by the Ottoman government and billions stolen from those minorities. Please do more research and educate yourself on the subject before posting crap
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+6 # Andranik 2012-11-20 23:52
We don't love the land of turkey but our Historic Western Armenian lands my friend. Those lands are originally ours and Turkey is responsible to return them back.
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+6 # Artak 2012-04-22 12:10
They are ethnic Armenians :)
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+1 # Andranik 2012-11-20 23:49
The 60,000 number is the number of Armenian that identify themselves as Armenian ans mainly live in Istanbul, while there are also crypto-Armenians in Historic Armenian/Eastern Turkey that have been Islamized or forced to change their religion in the past.
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+8 # 2011-08-22 17:48
Firstly to Leyla, They meant those Armenians that live in Western Armenia, masked as alevis, kurds Hemshentsis who by and by will convert back to christianity and Armenity.
As to ONE IMPORTANT NEW ARMENIAN COMMUNITY THAT THEY HAVE COMPLETELY OVERLOOKED..
That of Spain...CLOSE TO 60,000,whoa re dispdersed over in Barcelona,Valen cia,Alicangte, Madrid, bilbao and a host of other small cities.
Also there are Armenians in FINland
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+28 # 2011-09-28 21:00
I am writing on behalf of my father, Artin Ervant, who expressed a desire to learn of the whereabouts of his relatives. My father's story can only be told by telling the story of my grandfather, Yervant Der Nigoghossian.
Yervant and his brother Kerope Der Nigoghossian fled to Africa during the outbreak of World War I and the Armenian Genocide. After settling in Ethiopia, the two brothers both married Ethiopian women and started families. Kerope and his wife had seven children, while Yervant and his wife had two boys. Traditionally in Ethopia, a father's first name is given as the surname for their children. That being the case, Yervant's two children were known as Arsen and George Yervant rather then Der Nigoghossian.
Times were good for the two brothers and their families for a short time, but another World War began. Italy occuoied Ethiopia and banished all foreigners, and Mr Yervant Der Nigoghossian had 24 hours to leave the country. Without anything, He fled to Lebanon . Arsen was very young when this took place, and afterwards had no contact with his father. Arsen stayed in Ethiopia and overtime lost the Armenian pronunciation of his name, becoming known as Artin Ervant.
Artin heard a rumor that his father was able to start a family in Lebanon. He is now approaching his 90th birthday, and his curiosity remains. Just to be clear, neither I nor my father are looking for an inheritance of any kind. He just wishes to learn of his father's story after leaving Ethiopia. If this letter reaches any descendents of Yervant or Kerope Der Nigoghossian, please contact us. Thank you for your time.


Sincerely,
Simon Artin Der Nigoghossian
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+9 # Anna Ohannessian 2011-11-20 22:10
Dear Simon,
I read your message and I would like to tell you that it will be important for you to write to the Armenian Prelacy in Lebanon. They may help you find your relatives. You can also write to the daily newspaper AZTAG. you can find the website easily or I can help you with that.
I had the occasion to comme to Addis Abeba twice and visit the Armenian club where I met Siranoush and Simon.
Please keep in touch
Many thanks
Anna

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+6 # caroline shahbaz 2012-05-16 07:32
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I am writing on behalf of my father, Artin Ervant, who expressed a desire to learn of the whereabouts of his relatives. My father's story can only be told by telling the story of my grandfather, Yervant Der Nigoghossian.
Yervant and his brother Kerope Der Nigoghossian fled to Africa during the outbreak of World War I and the Armenian Genocide. After settling in Ethiopia, the two brothers both married Ethiopian women and started families. Kerope and his wife had seven children, while Yervant and his wife had two boys. Traditionally in Ethopia, a father's first name is given as the surname for their children. That being the case, Yervant's two children were known as Arsen and George Yervant rather then Der Nigoghossian.
Times were good for the two brothers and their families for a short time, but another World War began. Italy occuoied Ethiopia and banished all foreigners, and Mr Yervant Der Nigoghossian had 24 hours to leave the country. Without anything, He fled to Lebanon . Arsen was very young when this took place, and afterwards had no contact with his father. Arsen stayed in Ethiopia and overtime lost the Armenian pronunciation of his name, becoming known as Artin Ervant.
Artin heard a rumor that his father was able to start a family in Lebanon. He is now approaching his 90th birthday, and his curiosity remains. Just to be clear, neither I nor my father are looking for an inheritance of any kind. He just wishes to learn of his father's story after leaving Ethiopia. If this letter reaches any descendents of Yervant or Kerope Der Nigoghossian, please contact us. Thank you for your time.


Sincerely,
Simon Artin Der Nigoghossian


Dear Artin,
i read your request while i was doing some research on the Armenian Genocide. i was born in Ethiopia, then moved to Australia. i was a child and dont remember your relatives but, i sent out your request to a small network of people from ethiopia i know and got some information back. i am happy to share the information they shared and give you their email addresses. You may be able to connect with them and follow the trail to discover more information. Please feel free to contact me at
caroline shahbaz
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+2 # Hampo Ghazarossian 2012-05-18 08:02
For Simon Artin Der Nigoghossian:

The official records of the Armenian Community in Ethiopia confirm the existence of Kerope DerNigoghossian , but there is no information about Yervant Der Nigoghossian, nor Artin Ervant.

Kerope does have children and you may be able to get this information by contacting the Council of the Armenian Community in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia in order to have more information.

Hampo Ghazarossian
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+7 # 2011-10-24 01:06
We are fooling ourselves. We are mixing OLD data from countries like Lebanon (234.000 armenians, although in reality only 40-60.000 remain) with NEW data from western countries. As a result many armenian migrants are double-counted (first in the country of their origin and than in the new country).

This is how we get 10 million armenians worldwide figure. In fact the only "engine" behind armenian population's growth was/is Armenian SSR/Republicof Armenia. When it reached the pick of its population in the mid-80s, the Armenians worldwide stood at about 7 millions.

Since that time our numbers only diminished - in Republic of Armenia (due to labour migration to the rest of the world) and in Diaspora (due to disastrous assimilation processes).

I would be happy, if these days we count somtheing like 6 millions, of which only 3-4 millions are capable of speaking Armenian language. But I got a feeling that the reality is much darker.
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+4 # gaytzag palandjian 2011-11-21 06:14
Above post,with no name of the author is somewhat evasive,as to dropping the hint ,at end(last paragraph).I would add leaving a bad impression on Armenians .That of¨only 3-4 millions are capabele of speaking Armenian language(typica lly Bolsahye¨¨rathe r Turkish propelled propaganda¨¨.
Firstly ,there are over a hundred thousand French Armenians as an example,that do not speak Armenian,but I SWEAR-VOW they are much more patriotic than Armenian speaking ones.so much for neutralizing Bolsahay(actual ly some that are perfect Armenian speaking Turkish agents,for that is their struggle to downplay Armenity-some wrongly say Armenianism,,,w e are not ism peoply,like community ,say Armenity.
Furthermore, the peak of the Armenian population growth was not ONLY in soviet Armenia, but also in all Middle Eastern Armenian communities ,S.America ,North America and parts of southern Russia(these also not all speak Armenian, but feel and state they are stout Armenians.You don´t have to trumpet I am Armenian!!! in order to prove you are so.My French armenian friends,some thirty yrs ago BTW, did hardly speak a few words of Armenian,but they have strived to learn the language and are now speaking acceptably well Armenian.
Even more to the person who wrote above. The Majority of jews do not speak the hebrew but ask me how stout they are and defend their newly born country/state.....
So we must also NOT COUNT the Hemshentsi Armenians the ZAZA, who by and by are returning to christianity and chaning their forced changed names from Ahmet, mehmet to Vartan Vahan...
Be carefull please when you state indirectly that those armenians who do not speak language ARE not to be counted?????
totally wrong assumption!!!
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+5 # Karen 2011-12-16 05:19
Hargeli Kaytzag

I am not Bolsahay. I'm Russian Armenian. And I do not challenge "armeniannness" of those Armenians, who do not speak Armenian language.

All I was trying to say is this. We are not 10 million nation. We are 6-7 million at best. And this statistics above is hardly true. Because many Armenians are counted twise. There are no more 100.000 Armenians is Iran and definitely no 234.000 in Lebanon. These numbers should have been 2-3 times smaller.

We take 1970s statistical data from Middle East and 2000s data from Europe and US. And this is what makes our numbers bigger.

If you like to continue fulling yourselves - it's all right, go on. I dont' want to interfere anymore.
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+2 # Maria 2012-02-28 17:47
I agree with you in this respect. There is an established opinions that around 10 mln Armenians live abroad. Though merely the half of that amount of people can speak the language or has ever been to Armenia at least once. It's a very sensitive and emotional issue, it's super hard to evaluate the 'armenian-ness' of our compatriots, but otherwise who can be called Armenian?Those people who are Armenian descents with limited knowledge about their homeland?Or those who were forced to live in the end of 20th century to make their living possible?Very hard to answer these questions.
Additionally, according the general census 2011 the population of Armenia was 2,871,509. The result is very dramatic!
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+5 # gaytzag palandjian 2011-11-21 06:26
ERRATA!!
Probably another try by Bolsahye(could be perfect Armenian-English speaking one of those I hinted at above)Oh I forgot to add that Nor haratch Armenian newspaper of Paris a year or so ago had published that are some 120 turkish officers learning Armenian at the highest military academy of Ankara,I wrote back and quote¨¨what? to be sent to the moon??,no not so you guess where they will be sent to ,shall i say:Quite openly to all armenian community countries to direct Anti armenian propaganda ,always downplaying anything that is Armenian and shows that Armenia and Armenians are so small insginificant and not worth to fight for!!!
tHIS IS their strategy..plese iunderstand.
Oh Yeah above One bloke wrote ¨I love the land of Turkey¨¨the poor soul does not know THATPART OF THAT LAND ,i.e, what they call Anadolu(actuall y Western Armenia) is Armenian land and to the West, Nort West was partiallhy Pont-Greek, the Roman Byzanian lands before t he Turco tatarr seljuk Mongols around 1400 came form the UYGHURLAND(Now located in Western China) and conquered and stayed where they are now.Prior to which their hoards had gone as far as Vienna and the Balkans.Howeever got kicked out!!!! around 1840´s-
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+7 # Karen 2011-12-16 05:30
Kaytzak, sorry, but I'm not turkish officer learning Armenian either. Yes hay em, aprum em Moskva qaghaqum. Im tsnoghnery Erevantsi en, ekan Moskva 1970-akan tvakanerin.

Kaytzak-aper, menk erzaneri mech enk aprum. Sa e mer problemnerits meky. Yes chgitem, es erazy (10 million qanakutjamb hay azg) mez inchi e petk? Da mez inch e talis? Uremn, imanalov vor 10 million enq - karoghenq hangist mnal, urax, erjanik...

Im karciqov, ajspisi SUT thivery (10 million) ashxatum en hakarak ughutjamb. Ajspisi sut thivery mez talis en sut zgacmunq, vori hetevanqov tsankatsats andz heshtutjamb amusnanum e otari het, chi ashxatum lezun sovorel, hay mnal, ev ajln, ev ajln.... "Inchu ashxatel vor hay mnal, ethe menk mi mardashat azg enk?" - keharcni sovorakan haye 10 million thive imanaluc heto.

And to the contrary, if we realize deep down our heads that we are actually not so big in numbers - we would do our best to remain Armenian, to fight the assimilation process, etc.

To finish, I believe this statistics "sings a lullabay" to us, puts a pillow under our heads, makes us "sleep". I don't trust it.
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+3 # katya demurchian 2011-12-02 00:32
DEAR FRIENDS!! ME IZ ARMENIAN FROM GEORGIA (TBILISI) , IF YOU KNOW. HOW TO CONTACT TO ARMENIAN DIASPORA OF EUROPE'S SOCIAL INTERRELATION DEPARTMENT. I NEED TO CONTACT THEM. HELP ME PLEASE
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+5 # Ashot Galoyan 2011-12-03 15:23
For all armenians in all countries - new website armeniannews.info. We are open to any feedback and comments and would appreciate any cooperation and support.
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+4 # guytzag palandjian 2011-12-04 08:18
To .-Ashot Galoyan,
Thanks for introducing us to your website.it is good and Congrat.Please let me have your e-mail address so as I can submit my article(s) to you for publication.Very important that you do so,as it seems -unfortunately-our political party dominated owned prdess will not publish any other than what their Dogmas dictate.I do hope you will oblige if you think of Armenia and Armenity as a F I R S T!!!!
my e-mail is gayzagpal@gmail .com
Thanks and best Rgds,
G.P.
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+4 # Ashot Galoyan 2011-12-04 22:12
Dear Mr. Palandjian,

Thank you very much for your message. I would like to inform you that our website was devised as an open forum aimed at promoting sincere civic dialogue. It is meant to be independent and free of political affiliation and/or dominance. As the site is still in the process of construction, the article submission module which allows self-posting of articles will become functional within the next one-two weeks. In the meantime, you can e-mail me the text which will be posted from this end.
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+3 # guytzag palandjian 2011-12-16 07:41
To Karen,
It seems that my posts-NO DIRECTED TO ANYONE IN PARTICULAR- have prompted you to address to me your viewpoints. I have this answer.-What does it matter,if we are not 10,or 9,or 7. Turkey keeps boasting they are 60/70 million,whereas all know that some 17/18 million aare KURDS and probably some 3/5 million non turkic.so what?
We may be less than ten million..and mind you I did NOT write those statistics ,you refer to, but we are a Nation State Now and progressive. it remians to have DIASPORA re-organized to be counted with.In this connection I am ,and have been striving hard to find the way todo so.Please go to ...www.armeniannews.info and read my articles,nay ¨suggestions¨ there.That will throw light on what I have been trying to convey to my dear compatriots, make an effort to group regroup and forge ahead.We cannot afford to remian non-committal.
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+4 # Karen 2011-12-19 06:49
Okey, I will look into the web-site.

We need a country of at least 5-6 million people, with military service obligatory to men and women (just like in case of Kurdish peshmarga or Israel). That will give us 150 thousand strong defense force (not the current military personnel of 60 thousand). This is the only way to oppose 80 million Turkey. I don't care about Azeris. They have significant outflow of population, making total population of that country to stand at about 4-5 million.

And, yes, double citizenship application procedure should be simplified, - not the 6 month bureaucratic hell, which it is righ now. We need to have 5-6 million IN the country and 1-2 million diaspora in key economies (US, France, Russia, Argentina, etc.) We need to evacuate Armenians from places like Ethiopia, India, Egypt, Central America, Russian Syberia (belive it or not, there are hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of Armenians in Russian Syberia heading towards assimilation) AND Middle East (in light of last developments), etc.

Overall, there could be around 1 million Armenians spread over distabilized/poor countries hardly making their living... So, what the reason of not having them in Armenia. But to achieve that Armenia has TO SOBER UP. Th wake up to devastating reality of our diminishing, dying out, assimilating nation...

Regards,
Karen.
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+3 # AM 2012-04-21 07:19
I fully agree with you! I never understood Armenians leaving their land for India, Egypt, Argentina, Middle-East or what ever. What do people want from those countries? How much money do they get from working there and at what cost? I will never be able to understand. I live in Europe not by choice, my parents moved to Europe. They' ve planned to go back, and so will their children.
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+4 # berkay 2011-12-23 00:54
In Turkey, there are 6 millions of Kurds as origin. But almost all tell that they are Turk. Ottoman was an empire but Turkey is a nation state as you told for Armenia. But during Ottoman Empire, all nations was mixed. And beleive me there is not a real nation in the world.
In addition, if you want to calculate a real Turkish population in the world you should calculate Turks in Europe (only in Germany there 3 millions), Republic of Turkey, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tacikistan, Kazakistan. And the real number for instant is 300 millions!!!
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+5 # guytzag palandjian 2011-12-20 19:40
Karen etal,
If we really wish to re organize and repopulate Armenia/Artsakh-Javakhq,we should begin to form into work type Associations.Please go to read my articles in------
www.armeniannews.info
Thanks for reading me before hand
g.p
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-4 # ??? 2011-12-29 05:29
Where is Azerbajan?
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-2 # guytzag palandjian 2011-12-29 09:26
Berkay does not realize that Tajikestan uzbegistan and Kazakstan are out of great Turkey reach-seperated-not only by space but also by good soviet culture and do not have accentuated turkish racist instincts,like little brother Azerbaijan.
latter also is not totally so, There are Dagestani people lenkorani (pdersian) and many such others who do not wish to be Turanists...
Witness when the overtures by R.of Turkey there,they did not respond as latter thought they would.
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+3 # Berkay 2011-12-30 08:07
You are right that these 3 Turkish country have deep Russian culture which is result of Russia's assimilation activities; but their ethnivity is Turkish. I have never mean Great Turkey but I informed about Turkish population in the world.
Finally, why I used assimilation? For example Greece! Turkey had governed Greece for 500 years. We have similar habit; but all Greeks has had their religion and language. This is latitude of Turkey. Same for Bulgaria (600 years), Hungary (160 years), Armenia (200 years). If Turkey behaved like Russia or other colonial countries, today all northern africa, middle east, eastern europe and western russia would speak Turkish!
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-1 # guytzag palandjian 2011-12-30 14:03
Western Russia be speaking Turkish? please! the country of Peter the Great? the Molotov and Lavrov and Putin ?
You are way away from understanding that Russians are Europeans ,have not any Eastern tendencies...
NorthAfrican Khaliphates also invaded spain and ruled there 600 yrs...But then spanish prionces allied , got well armed and thre them out.However these things happen in other ways -modes-too like India´s mahatma Gan!dhi asked the Britrs out !!!
Turkey rather Ottoman Empire also has exhausted its old force and pressent Trukey is about to be left alone by allies and then voila
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-1 # Berkay 2011-12-31 00:45
There is misunderstandin g. Look Ukraine had governed for 308 years, Georgia 400 years, Southern Russia 291 years, Western Russia 25 years by Turks. I mean if Ottoman Empire behave like Russia (to Turkish countries speak Russian too), France (to Tunis, Algeria and Marocco speak still French), UK (to India, Egypt and other collonies speak still English) these countries could speak Turkish. But Ottoman governed there not make collonies like these countries. For example, Bosnia has decided Islam thanks to freedom of Mehmed the Conquerer or when Sultan Selim the Stern had the caliphate, he appointed Egyptian governor. When Suleyman the Magnificient subjugate Hungary, he appointed the brother of King Lajos as a governor. My subject is not being speaking Turkish. My subject is Ottoman Empire was governed by freedom opininon. Turks governed all 25 millions kmsq without any enforcing. And in any other country/empire until 20th century, there was such opininon.
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+1 # guytzag palandjian 2012-01-01 07:13
Yeah..by dreaming one can also live.The British Empire also ruled millions of sq.kilometers and in those areas they spoke language BUT THEY ARE NOW INDEPENDENT COUNTRIES SUCH AS I N D I A ....I R A N ,ALL THE GULF ARAB STATES,SHALL I GO ON...
TIME IS FOR TURKS TO UNDEERSTAND THEY ARE NO MORE KHALIPHATES.Miserably under educated as AS TO HUMAN RIGHTS AND STILL WITH HOPE LIKE YOU NURUTRE THAT THEY CAN RULE OF ERMENIS K U R D S G R E E K S ,, ETC., THEY MUST STAY PUT IN AN AREA THAT IS WESTERN TURKEY AND TRY TO CATCH UP WITH OLD HISTORY OF THEIRS AND THEN PRACTICE DEMOCRACY NOT TOTALITARIANISM !!!
Come down from those clouds Berkay,or you will be very disappointed.Sooner or later k u r d i s t a n will be declared as Independent!!! Western armenian repopulated by Armenians and attached to Armenia!!!
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-8 # Berkay 2012-01-02 03:15
There is no more necessity to discuss with you. Because you are racist. I have never attack to any country in my comments. But your behaviour is aggresive. I am telling you truth but you are talking about dreams. Kurds has never stated in the history. They fight with us against all enemies. There may be a Kurdish state but it won't be any part of Republic of Turkey. Turks are the one of the dominant civilisation in the world. We can't be compared with small countries like our neigbours. Because they are remains of Turks!
Turkey's place in near future will be top 10 of the world.
END!
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0 # Andranik 2012-11-21 00:57
Its good to dream, but one day. the wheel will spin when the end of 'Turkey' will come, and you will have no choice but to be yourselves again- barbaric tribes owning no country and be relocated to central Asia. Where were the turks when the Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians were living together or when the Armenian Empire was at its height and the strongest after the Roman Empire? Let me answer- living in Central Asia on other people's lands. Let me remind you that the now Republic of Turkey is on the lands of former Armenia, Greece, Assyria, and other native people of the Armenian Highlands/ Anatolia and it will one day go back to that condition in the future.
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-2 # Berkay 2012-11-26 02:05
Wow! What an imaginary boy! :) You dream to defeat Turkey from Anatolia. What a barbar mind? Are you barbar?
We have been in Anatolia for 1000 years. Before there was Romans. They had lived together with Armenians, Greeks...etc. We have also lived together with them. So the problem is your mind. To compare 1000 years ago and today.
Anatolia is a Turkish land and we can live here with peaceful friends but not you.
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+5 # guytzag palandjian 2012-01-02 09:43
Like I wrote...KEEP dreaming!!!
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+4 # armando 2012-01-03 09:08
dear berkay its very simples why the countries invaded by ottomans see always the ottomans like invaders becouse the turks never made the industrial revolutions or renaisance like do the french and the english the only efforts of them is to try to convert ,nothing good happens from this invasions no schools no technologies ,ottomans its the only empire that havent their alphabet but using the arabian alphabet ,best regards from albania
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-1 # Berkay 2012-01-03 23:52
Dear Armando,
I totally agree with you. Because of this reason, 600 years old empire fell down. Because of this reason Turkey has still tried to come bigger. If Ottomans had oriented with Renaissance and industrial revolutions, everything could be different.
I want to add one thing to your comment. Yes, Ottomans hadn't built schools or factories to conquered places but they hadn't also exploited like France, UK who had built schools there. Ottomans had behaved like their local cities to these countries. They hadn't any benefit on them. Thanks for your kind comment. To be kind is not easy, it is a virtue.
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-2 # Can 2012-08-28 21:22
hey delusional stupid turanic comedian!

even the most of ottoman army members was consisted of non-muslim men.
And their religious beliefs was not fully islam!they were bektashi which means alevite masonary!
And they used to love destroying :) They destroyed their own army in the 18th century then established a new army that is called Prophet Mohammeds Army(Asakir-i Mansure-i Muhammediyye)

Ahahhaa you muslim sheeps are all tragycomedy :))))))

Nowadays what your elected administration tries to destroy is the army again because of rumors are alevi or jewish or armenian influence on army's high ranked individuals :)

I guess you should establish post Mohammeds Army with muslim individuals may be the best solution to conquer the christian europe :))))))) u little comedian barbars in Turkey
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+1 # Berkay 2012-08-30 04:38
Dear Can,
You are really ridiculous. I don't know why you like insulting but I agree with you. I have never voted this government. For me Turkish army which is nearly 2500 years old now, is the founder and protector of republic.
In addition, I couldn't understand how can you understand something like that from my previous comments.
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-1 # Can 2012-08-30 16:45
i dont insult neither anything nor anyone i do just tell the truth which corrupts your bullshit based illusional stories!

Why u always ask the same question as a rescue vehicle is that "i couldnt get how can u get somethin....."
your antics really, really bored me

my everlasting advise to you that be yourself dont try too hard by spreading false stories!
do not forget that armenians are not muslim means traitor and infidel just like alevis and jews!
[censored] badbye!
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0 # Berkay 2012-09-01 00:41
I ignore you because it is not possible to make a discussion on your culture and politeness.
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-1 # zohrab 2012-01-04 05:28
turks are only good tokill rob destroy.and for gaydzag i like his thinking and patriotizm
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+3 # armando 2012-01-04 07:28
to berkay!!!the ottomans have benefit like conquereurs because the invaded must to pay a lot of harac (taxe)and to give up the children male to be the future jenicer to fight in yemen and everywhere because the ballkans have no petrol or diamants even that have ottomans dont need a lot of petrol at this time like the british belive me l want better to be exploited that been retarded for 5OO the role of empires is to go ahead their subjects and missfortunaly the ottomans dont do well this point for these reason no body like to renew a bad experience sincerely it was very dark and long periode.I wish you a happy new year and also the armenians my best wishes for the 2012;))we can not make the story but we can argumentes the facts
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+2 # Berkay 2012-01-04 08:16
Armando,
You and me also pay taxes to our governments. It is very normal. In addition, you really know very well Ottomans. Are you Turkish? ;) Happy new years to everyone.
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+1 # Can 2012-08-30 16:36
it was very normal?
i wonder if you are comedian?

ahahahaha there were lots of option to be forced to pay taxes!

muslim taxes and
non muslim taxes: triple tax bills than muslim the greats!

it was abnormal, u big count!
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+1 # armando 2012-01-04 09:30
after 500 years its very difficult to find who is who the real turks are very few turkey its a big mix of junan arnauts yugo armens kurds llaz cerkez arap et etc but l now that general bashbug is from albania .I think that you also are origin from ballkans ?you pays taxes but you have the right to vote at this time the peoples that was not muslim have nothing to say it was a teocratic regime.The armenians also are from ballkans its a thraco illyrian tribe that moved at caucaus at 600 B.C.
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+6 # Menuas 2012-02-16 18:19
Armenians didn't come from the Balkans !

This Balkan theory has been discredited long time ago. Armenians are native to Armenia, they are the descendents of Hayk Nahapet also known as Japet who was oen of the sons of Noa.

Japet's (Hayk) family and closest relatives were the ones who remained in Armenia, and they are the ones who formed the Armenian nation back in approximately 2400 BC, when Hayk defeat Bell (the king of Babylon) as explained by Movses Khorenatsi.
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+4 # Menuas 2012-02-16 18:26
I meant to say after Hayk defeated Bell, not "when".
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0 # Berkay 2012-01-04 23:04
My origin is Anatolian. My family was the governor of Cankiri (130 km to Ankara). But it was annexed by Mehmed the Conquerer. Real real Turkish people are in Asia. now almost all races were mixed.
In addition, this your first mistake about Ottomans. In the empire, no-muslims has the most right. Yes, it was teocratic monarch regime but nobody had voting right. foreigners had more commercial and educational royalty than Turks. Because of this reason after republic Ataturk paid attention to education and commercial rights.
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+2 # armando 2012-01-06 01:19
event to ours days to have turkish nationality the subjects must have to change their name or if you want to buy house in turkey a foreinger have no right it is the most of most of prefection of human rights all this say to me a best friend of mine that is muslim and live in turkey from 15 years and is proff at istambul universsitty .The few rights the no muslim begins to have at the begining of 20 century it was called kaur or jaur but even in our days a l think that turkey dont go to right directions whith arrest of basbug or whith the problems of israel turkey must stay laik will be big mistake to change directions.berkay you must to speak bashbakan erdoan to change mind ;)
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+1 # Berkay 2012-01-09 00:02
I have also special interest on Ottoman history. And I am sure that your knowledge is correct.
And you are right. First of all 16 Turkish country in the history has been a military country. Secondly, Turkish army is the proctector of laique and democratic Turkish country. Because of this reason Erdogan wants hurt or destroy this decision of soldiers. But all the soldiers in prison are heros and patriots. But nobody is permanent so Erdogan also will be on trail one day. We are waiting for that day!
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-3 # Selcuk 2012-01-30 03:22
Mr Berkay,

I am afraid you will wait for the day forever :))
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+6 # ANEN 2012-01-28 18:41
Berkay,there's one thing.Smart person can handle many people,stupid people cant handle even one.So it goes to your comment like you said--turks are getting bigger but they aren't getting smarter.No offence,
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-1 # Berkay 2012-01-29 23:47
Unfortunately, I agree with you. As Ottomans could manage big territories but many people. If they could, now, world would be different.
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-1 # Berkay 2012-01-30 08:27
Look Anen. I agreed with you but you should know that Ottoman Empire had lived 624 years. From 27.01.1299 to 23.10.1923. If they didn't know anything or managing people, they hadn't lived for a long time. The largest territory was 30 millions kmsq. Divisions started with provocation of GB, Russia and France. So you should first look to your history about managing people and then you can make comments about Turkish history!
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+2 # Геннадий 2012-02-01 23:52
Armenians in Ukraine are ethnic Armenians who live in Ukraine. They number 99,894 according to the 2001 Ukrainian census.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenians_in_Uk raine
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+1 # Andranik Wazgen 2012-02-07 05:42
[censored] turks !! We are few but they call us armenians !!
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-2 # Andranik Wazgen 2012-02-07 05:44
Fu.ck turks!! We are few but they call us Armenians!!
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-2 # Armenian soldier 2012-02-07 05:48
Turks are stupid, we Armenians fight like man we die like man
There wil never be peace in my heart!
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0 # Berkay 2012-02-07 07:05
The culture and education level between Turks and these censored people (i don't call them Armenians) can be understood from our comments. There is no necessity to reply them.
Our main idea is"Peace in homeland, peace in the world" like saying of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk!
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+3 # RevBreeze 2012-02-07 08:55
Hi there )) I'm from Armenia and I found this statistics by chance....I work for the Ministry of Diaspora,RA and for my report on Diapora I need to find some organizations.that exist in Armenia and cooperate with Diaspora(or viceversa)... I need their coordinates,can anybody help me? Thanks beforhead))
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+3 # zohrab 2012-02-07 13:10
rev breeze i am from melbourne australia iam a diasphoran armenian any help i can give u from here i would help you and i am a great fan of your minister hranoush
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+2 # RevBreeze 2012-02-08 00:38
Hi zohrab,glad to hear that ) I need to know if there are any social organizations in Austarlia,that cooperate with armenian ones. And besides I would like to know how do you evaluate work of our ministry in your community,is there anything you don't like,or any ideas for us to carry out in future?? By the way have you heard anything about the program "Ari tun" ???
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+3 # zohrab 2012-02-08 02:38
rev good to hear from you.i daily read news from armenia i want to know everything that is happening in aremenia.. i have read everything that your minister hranoush has written i like her very much but there is still a lotto be done between us as diasphorans and hayasdantciner but i like hranoush a lot she is onthe right track.yes i know ari tun. i am currently doing my own ari tun in armenia on my own anywhere i can help anyone who seriously in need i help what i can and i tell u i love armenia no matter what good or bad but together we can make it slowly better. by the way i am coming again in april to yerevan if u like we can meet thank u
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+1 # RevBreeze 2012-02-09 07:42
That would be nice zohrab )) yes I'm going to elaborate a new program,to advertise everywhere "ari tun" as the number of armenian kids comin' back to their hometown is not expressive...I would be very grateful if you could mention any disadvantage (we need it to improve our system)) thank you)
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+1 # zohrab 2012-02-09 13:14
ok thanks ithink of something let me know how we meet in april or where i get in touch with u
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+2 # RevBreeze 2012-02-13 00:02
Mmm do you have any facebook account??? I can give my e-mail,but Fb is an easier way for me to stay in touch with the people....
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+1 # zohrab 2012-02-13 00:58
give me email
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+4 # revbreeze 2012-02-13 06:21
OK ) rbaldryan@yahoo .com
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+2 # sasha 2012-02-24 14:34
Berkay, I like your culture. well done
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+4 # Avanesov Oleg 2012-02-26 21:12
Hi. I'm an Armenian me and my family live in Lincoln NE, and I don't think we was counted too. We from Baku and here nobody knows who we are ,we hade USSR passport. I'm telling averybody we Armenians, but by citizen certificate I was born in azerbaijan, and I think thousands Armeniians live around the USA, and not counted and maybe around the world. GO HAYASTAN.
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+1 # albanian 2012-03-06 02:41
yes i am albanian diaspora
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+2 # albanian 2012-03-06 02:42
i live in greece in albania they are note armenians
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-3 # albanian 2012-03-06 02:45
albanian diaspora is up 20 milion in all the world and in balkans area they are 7 milion. about armenians u are country people are creat from greeks dont forget that .
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-1 # albanian 2012-03-06 02:51
alot of turks otomans example kemal ataturk they are origin albanian
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-2 # aram 2012-03-08 18:07
Ataturk is a Salonican Donmeh Sabbatean Jew and not Albanian.
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-1 # Berkay 2012-03-09 04:37
Dear Aram,

If he was jew, so why he had prayed in mosques?
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+1 # Andranik 2012-11-21 01:08
He prayed in mosques to present himself as a Muslim and establish his goals without any obstacles. That's why! There were crypto jews like him that were jewish in the heart but presented themslves Muslim for higher advantage over positions and more power.
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-4 # Berkay 2012-03-06 04:17
Dear Albanian,

I have to stop you here. Ataturk was born in Salonique where was an Ottoman country. He had lived in a Turkish district because his family is Turkish. He had had any relation with Albania or Greece. His family was Turkish family who had lived in Salonique. As well, when Ottoman Empire evacuate Balkans, his family moved to Istanbul. If they had been Albanian or any other civilisation, why wouldn't they stay in their hometown?
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+3 # ARARAT 2012-03-08 19:36
Turkish man and disbelief is always false ..
Makes the Turks in 1915 genocide of Armenians, the Kurds now carrying out genocide
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-7 # Berkay 2012-03-09 04:36
Dear Vartan,
You are really funny. First of all, I have all rights to beleive or not. If your family died during migration, Armenian terrorists had killed Turkish soldiers, families, women and children slayed and been raped. There is ethics to kill people too. Your family hadn't killed by Armenian terrorists like that. So you can't know this fact too.
Do you know the reason of mutual massacre? Turkish government wants realise a commission with Armenian and Turkish historians to discuss it with evidences. But Armenia hasn't accepted it. We are ready to accept the decision of this commission.
The real reason is invaders forces that you mentioned about them as saver.
You are right Armenians were the loyal citizens of Ottoman Empire. Why it is called as loyal because lots of artists, architects, bankers were Armenian. This is why in Turkey, there still Armenians. We have never had problem with Armenians. When an insurgency started because France in South East Anatolia, an invasion started there. And the final solution was forced migration.
We are really sorry about your lost. Humans must live with peace but sometimes politics prevent it. First of all, this hate must be ended for both nations. Because history was lived and finished. We have lost the future also because of this hate.
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+1 # albanian 2012-03-11 10:44
look i now that in turkies lives alot albanian and some of turkish otoman are true albanian beacuse the president davutoglu say that albanian famous in omtman empire and in egypt ther have right history and excuse fore my english .
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-3 # Berkay 2012-03-12 08:12
You are right Albanian. No problem about English. No one has perfect English. :)
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0 # berkey is stupid 2012-03-12 19:26
dear berkey your stupid
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-2 # KARS 2012-03-19 04:48
[censored] and go
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+1 # Dagmar Whitaker 2012-03-30 08:48
Hello,

My name is Dagmar Whitaker and I am the Training Supervisor at the Washington Language Center.

We are currently looking for Armenian instructors to teach at the U.S. State Department’s Foreign Service Institute (FSI) scheduled to start ASAP until August 22, 2012. The contract is through our school, The Washington Language Center. This is for 8 hours a day, 5 days of contact teaching and 3 hours of preparation. (Five days a week, Monday through Friday)

If available, please contact me, Ms. Dagmar Whitaker at 703 243 7858XT305 or my colleague Guillermo Lopez at 703 243 7858XT303. When you call, let us know your availability.
In order to teach for WLC at the Department of State Foreign Service Institute, it is required by law that you have proof of legal status to work in the United States.

A photo id, your Social Security card, and any of the following: Green Card, US government issue work permit, US Naturalization Certificate, or a US passport. Please be sure to verify that the documents that you have be current and up to date. The Washington Language Center will not accept expired documents.

Please, contact us at your earliest convenience.

Kind regards,

Dagmar Whitaker
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-1 # patilo 2012-04-21 13:17
i hate what turks did do armenia
and i dont want them to trik or kill
people they dont know. know all
of them will be killed by the
armenians cause they killed my
grandfather.

i missed him so so much :cry:
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-1 # patilo 2012-04-21 13:20
:cry:
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+3 # Menua 2012-05-23 18:46
I wonder if Armenia's gov't has a plan in place for settling tens of thousands potential Armenian refugees that will most likely come to Armenia if Iran is attacked by the western powers and a regional war ensues between Iran and US/NATO/Israel. Anybody knows? If there is no such plan, I will highly recommend to consider that. It never hurts to be prepared for the potential worst case scenarios that may develop in the region at any given time.
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+3 # andrew 2012-05-24 04:32
any armenian wants to come home he is welcome home is home
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+1 # Razo 2012-06-06 08:17
Hi sorry my English is Bad :S
I am Armenian from Belgium oooooooooool but i think in Belgium dont living 10.000 Armenians

I think minium 50.000 ;D
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0 # Arm 2012-06-06 09:10
In Belgium? yes perhaps 50 000 when Armenchik is giving a concert, then they remember they are Armenians? hahah
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+2 # Preston Bagrationi 2012-06-16 12:06
I am an Ethnic Armenian born and raised in the USA.
Some of the numbers given here are incorrect. As of 2012, there were about 60,000 Armenians in Lebanon, and 40,000 in Syria. Most have emigrated to Europe and USA.
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+4 # Preston Bagrationi 2012-06-16 12:14
Dear Armenian compatriots, kindly refrain from using derogatory and abusive language. Cursing and name calling does No good for our motherland or our Armenian people. On the contrary, it will make us look like desperate macho-wanabees. Come on, act civil and behave and let us All bring honor to our people. Good luck for All here.
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+3 # TIGRANUS 2012-06-24 22:12
Dear Berkay,
First of all I would like to remind you do research on modern historian articles about Armenian Genocide and even if we speculate about the exact number of Armenians in Ottoman empire before 1915(Turkish Ottoman statistics=1,219,323) i WOULD LIKE YOU TO ASK WERE ARE THOSE PEOPLE,WHY THERE IS ONLY 60.000 ARMENIANS IN MODERN TURKEY, AND IF YOU GOING TO BLAME ON DEPORTATION AND STRAGGLES OF WWI EVEN IF WE ASSUME THIS WAS ORGANIZED DEPORTATION TO OTHER PARTS OF EMPIRE THAN THIS TYPE OF ORGANIZED DEPORTATION WHICH BROUGHT THIS TYPE OF CASUALTIES IS GENOCIDE UNTIL SPECIFIED OTHERWISE .YOU ALWAYS MENTIONING IN YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT HUMANITY AND GOOD DEEDS OF OTTOMANS DURING THEIR RULING IN THEIR 600 YEARS OF HISTORY THAN EXPLAIN ME WHY SO MANY NATIONS WERE TRYING TO GET INDEPENDENTS ,EXPLAIN ME UNFAIR TAXES ON NON- MUSLIMS,THEIR UNPROTECTED STATUS AGAINST THE LAW AND OTHER SO MANY HARSH LIVING CONDITIONS?

THANKS.
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-1 # Berkay 2012-06-25 22:53
Dear Tigranus,
First of all, i want to thank you for your kind speech. Because some people doesn't know how to speak! Anyway, there is more less 60000 Armenian in modern Turkey. You are right. Some of them forced to move and unfortunately some of them killed. But same number of Turkish was killed also by Armenians. We have never deny killed people. But there was a war there. Armenians was loyal society of Ottomans. We were brothers. So why we have lived this kind of bad events. Because Frenchs invaded there and provocate Armenians to found their own country there. And then Armenian rebellion started there. This is the reason of forced migration.
Secondly, why countries tried to be independent? Of course, it is the effect of French Revolution. Because after French revolution, patriotism has become important. There wasn't unfair taxes because Ottomans had signed many agreement for minority rights. For example Bulgaria was under Ottoman authority for 620 years. Why they didn't try to be independent in 14th, 15th, 16th or 17th century? Why the most richest people was Armenians and other minorites and the less educated and poorest people was Turkish in Ottoman Empire? All minorites had had very well rights in Ottoman Empire. If not it is not possible to live for 635 years! Believe me minority rights was better than modern Turkey in Ottoman Empire!
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-6 # Grian 2012-07-19 01:57
You all are dumb all Armenians should
Stop acting entitled and stop having attitudes towards the white people to which their countries they are trying to Populate ! Have some manors you stuck up armos!!! Turks!!!
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0 # Armen 2012-08-08 06:28
I sat down and counted # of armenians in the world, there are almost 13m Armenians around the world, but sadly because Armenia can't support a large populace there are 10m Armenians that live outside of Armenia, while only 3 million live inside Armenia.
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+3 # Gustavo Tarikian 2012-08-20 20:11
Saying Hi from the south atlantic ocean in a Island called, Florianopolis, tha magic Island .... one os the most beautiful places in Brasil... My grandfather Azad Tarikian Azad means free in armenian left Yerevan with 6 years old... came to Brasil. I am his grandsun Gustavo Tarikian...
add me in facebook Guga Tarikian and is you ever come to Brazil... including turkishs... you will be really welcome.... armenian tradiions,...religion, food ( i love basterma... with a nice cold beer after playing football... Se you in Brazil, my brothers and sister... a paz mundial !

Luis Gustavo Tarikian
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-7 # Can 2012-08-28 20:42
news.am/eng/news/71186.html

no armenians were dissapeared from Anatolia that is their homeland !!!!!?

Anatolia were always turco-muslim land!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

I am from Turkey and a turco-muslim monster
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0 # Fakhriy Muhammad 2012-10-08 02:47
Hello... I am Muhammad from Indonesia....

There were thousands of Armenians lived in Indonesia from 1850 to 1970s. Most of the Armenians lived as businessman in coastal area such as Jakarta and Surabaya. In my city, Jakarta, Budi Kemuliaan street was an Armenian quarter for 50 years.

Most of the Armenians came to Indonesia to accompany and assist the Dutch Colonial Government in economy. Most of the Indonesians haven't known about the Armenians. We just saw they look like Arabic people but their script and culture are different. Than we asked about their origin, thus they answered "We are from Armenia, the highland in South Soviet Union".

As we haven't known the different between Russians, Armenians and other ethnic groups in USSR we only knew they are Soviet people. The notable Armenians in Indonesia is Sarkies Brothers who established the Sarkies 5 star hotel in Surabaya, Indonesia. The other notable Armenian is the first director of Ragunan Zoo, Jakarta.

There was a revolt in 1965 which conducted by Indonesian Communist Party. This revolt assassinated 10 Indonesian Military Officers, damaged the praying house (Mosque, Church, Temple), and mass murder of thousand people. This communist party was supported by USSR and PRC. The direct effect if the communist revolt was expulsion of Chinese and Armenians. Fortunately, none Armenians killed in this expulsion.
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+2 # Fakhriy Muhammad 2012-10-08 02:47
Hello... I am Muhammad from Indonesia....

There were thousands of Armenians lived in Indonesia from 1850 to 1970s. Most of the Armenians lived as businessman in coastal area such as Jakarta and Surabaya. In my city, Jakarta, Budi Kemuliaan street was an Armenian quarter for 50 years.

Most of the Armenians came to Indonesia to accompany and assist the Dutch Colonial Government in economy. Most of the Indonesians haven't known about the Armenians. We just saw they look like Arabic people but their script and culture are different. Than we asked about their origin, thus they answered "We are from Armenia, the highland in South Soviet Union".

As we haven't known the different between Russians, Armenians and other ethnic groups in USSR we only knew they are Soviet people. The notable Armenians in Indonesia is Sarkies Brothers who established the Sarkies 5 star hotel in Surabaya, Indonesia. The other notable Armenian is the first director of Ragunan Zoo, Jakarta.

There was a revolt in 1965 which conducted by Indonesian Communist Party. This revolt assassinated 10 Indonesian Military Officers, damaged the praying house (Mosque, Church, Temple), and mass murder of thousand people. This communist party was supported by USSR and PRC. The direct effect if the communist revolt was expulsion of Chinese and Armenians. Fortunately, none Armenians killed in this expulsion.
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+1 # Fakhriy Muhammad 2012-10-08 02:47
Hello... I am Muhammad from Indonesia....

There were thousands of Armenians lived in Indonesia from 1850 to 1970s. Most of the Armenians lived as businessman in coastal area such as Jakarta and Surabaya. In my city, Jakarta, Budi Kemuliaan street was an Armenian quarter for 50 years.

Most of the Armenians came to Indonesia to accompany and assist the Dutch Colonial Government in economy. Most of the Indonesians haven't known about the Armenians. We just saw they look like Arabic people but their script and culture are different. Than we asked about their origin, thus they answered "We are from Armenia, the highland in South Soviet Union".

As we haven't known the different between Russians, Armenians and other ethnic groups in USSR we only knew they are Soviet people. The notable Armenians in Indonesia is Sarkies Brothers who established the Sarkies 5 star hotel in Surabaya, Indonesia. The other notable Armenian is the first director of Ragunan Zoo, Jakarta.

There was a revolt in 1965 which conducted by Indonesian Communist Party. This revolt assassinated 10 Indonesian Military Officers, damaged the praying house (Mosque, Church, Temple), and mass murder of thousand people. This communist party was supported by USSR and PRC. The direct effect if the communist revolt was expulsion of Chinese and Armenians. Fortunately, none Armenians killed in this expulsion.
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+1 # Fakhriy Muhammad 2012-10-08 02:47
Hello... I am Muhammad from Indonesia....

There were thousands of Armenians lived in Indonesia from 1850 to 1970s. Most of the Armenians lived as businessman in coastal area such as Jakarta and Surabaya. In my city, Jakarta, Budi Kemuliaan street was an Armenian quarter for 50 years.

Most of the Armenians came to Indonesia to accompany and assist the Dutch Colonial Government in economy. Most of the Indonesians haven't known about the Armenians. We just saw they look like Arabic people but their script and culture are different. Than we asked about their origin, thus they answered "We are from Armenia, the highland in South Soviet Union".

As we haven't known the different between Russians, Armenians and other ethnic groups in USSR we only knew they are Soviet people. The notable Armenians in Indonesia is Sarkies Brothers who established the Sarkies 5 star hotel in Surabaya, Indonesia. The other notable Armenian is the first director of Ragunan Zoo, Jakarta.

There was a revolt in 1965 which conducted by Indonesian Communist Party. This revolt assassinated 10 Indonesian Military Officers, damaged the praying house (Mosque, Church, Temple), and mass murder of thousand people. This communist party was supported by USSR and PRC. The direct effect if the communist revolt was expulsion of Chinese and Armenians. Fortunately, none Armenians killed in this expulsion.
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+2 # Menua 2012-10-08 19:06
Thanks for the information Fakhriy,

I never knew that there were Armenians in Indonesia.
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+1 # Arshak 2012-10-11 13:18
I went through the trouble of adding all the numbers together. Something the website should have done!!!!

Total Worldwide Population: 10,843,701
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+1 # BARIŞ 2012-11-17 18:17
Yurtta barış , dünyada barış...
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+2 # arman 2013-01-17 11:46
looooooool u [censored] bastard we have been there before u were. u came in our lands at about 1300 we have been living on those lands for 4000 years and you came from somewhere from mongolia and took those lands through genocide and massacres search about armenian empire kingdom of kilikia kingdom of van Kingdom of Sophene Kingdom of Commagene turks make history for themself and teach lies to their kids and the sad thing is their kids beleive them u want something worldwide recognised? here you go get in here and see for yourself

en.wikipedia.org/.../...

as for the living thing u never lived with greeks and armenians there was a time that half turkey was armenian and greek u only stole our lands with massacres search for
ararat and kilikia and search for constatinopole( instabul my ass) and pontus all were greek and armenian lands
if you make a research and read not what your goverment gives you to read then thank you if you wont [censored] YOU
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+1 # harry 2013-04-07 13:13
HELLO,,I just want to add one more country ,,only 1* ARMENIAN leaves there and
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0 # Mihran Papazian 2013-07-16 06:41
parevner, i'm Mihran from China. i can guarante you that we are more than 16.if you ever wish to update these data there you go: China 1500 (estimate)- beijing 80 shanghai 70 guangzhou 100 hong kong 80 shenzhen 20. www.chinahay.com is the Armenian Community of China and we count more than 300 members with gatherings every other month. welcome to contact us guys. Atik Gustavo and others pari kalust!
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-2 # GARIK 2013-09-25 23:15
HOW I SEE THE ARMENIAN DIDNT KNOW OWN HISTORY ITS FUNNY
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-1 # Gor 2013-10-01 09:18
Հայերեն գրող չկա ?
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gor hayere hima multi linguist en.payrs hayasdane sirdernin metch ne
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0 # NUNE 2014-02-09 09:56
Armenians, brothers and sisters!

In April 2013 was created the Armenian Internet-Volunteer Army. Its main task, in the eve of the 100 anniversary of the genocide of our people, - combine active Armenians planet in the fight for their legitimate rights and interests. For over the past period had done a lot of organizational, information and analytical work.

Now, it's time to call in the army of volunteers. Those who, instead of systematically discuss worthless information in social networks, not only ready to tell the world of our bitter truth, but also to fight for the future of our nation all lawful means.

Only together we can speak out loud about international crimes against our people. The nation does not want those who loudly declares: «Ara, we, the Armenians, cool, eh!». The nation needs of those who is ready to prove their identity.

Armenian Internet-Volunteer Army (AIVA) requires people with active life position, who are able to work as a team through the coordinators to you, not just to tell the world about the atrocities against our people, but unite Armenians living in different parts of the world, for real actions.

We need journalists, lawyers, translators of Russian and Armenian languages other languages of the world, experts in the field of Internet-technologies, Analytics, philologists and historians.

Please note that we operate strictly within the international standards and do not violate the legislative acts of the States, which are home to our volunteers.

Naturally, in our ranks will penetrate the various intelligence to divide us from the inside. It is a common practice. The AIDA is on guard of the interests of each of us and the nation as a whole.

We are waiting for applications from volunteers at: Higher power help only those who fight for their future. Downstream floats only dead fish...

Coordinator AIVA Vrezh Bakyrakertce.

Armenian Internet-Volunteer Army operates thanks to the voluntary donations of the world spread Armenians. Yandex Money: 410012164869196
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